The Glebe – Methods & Baits

On this page I’d like to take a look at the various methods and baits that are successful at the Glebe Fishery, together with some of the relevant match rules.

If you are good at casting a feeder to the same place time and time again then this is a really excellent method. Firstly a couple of relevant rules :
1) There is a minimum hook length of 20″. You cannot tuck the bait into the feeder, the bait has to hang 20″ below the feeder when you cast
2) No method feeders

Favourite feed for inside the feeder is either groundbait or micro pellets or a mixture of the two. Favourite hookbaits are two or three dead reds or a small white boilie. An 8mm pellet or an 8mm tough JPz can also be good. The addition of casters or hemp to the feeder can help. Wherever you draw you’ll see a white post on the opposite bank. This is your marker, where you’re trying to aim. Watch Jarrad or Andy Kinder and you’ll see how it should be done. watch me and you’ll learn precisely nothing, I’ll probably get up off my box and do a dance of joy if I manage to get within ten feet of where I’m aiming…the experts get it within ten inches….time after time.

Straight Lead
For the last couple of years there’s been a period towards the end of summer when corn fishing has died but fishing the straight lead with pellet on the hook has come good. I really don’t know why it only seems to work for those few weeks before the first frosts, maybe it’s simply that nobody tries it in the height of summer when so many fish are caught on the pole. It’s really a very simple method. Fish a bomb as light as you can get away with, use the same 20″ hook length as is required for feeder fishing and fish a hair rigged 8mm pellet on the hook. Cast as far as you can catapult 6mm or 8mm feed pellets depending on the wind. Cast out, stick the rod in the rest and fire in a few pellets every minute or two. If the fish want it then the rod will arc round in a vicious, unmissable bite. Get the fish in the net, rinse and repeat. It’s a method that suits people such as myself who have limited ability when trying to cast tight to the far bank, you just have to get the bait in the general area and you’ll have a decent chance of catching a few fish…give it a try sometime.

Long Pole
In the summer it involves fishing shallow at somewhere between 13 and 16 metres. In the winter it’s exactly the same except that you will be fishing on the bottom. A couple of rules particularly relevant during the summer months :
1) No slapping, tapping, whirling, twirling or helicoptering of rigs.2) The float must be in the water and the bait be a minimum of 6″ below the surface. Baits must not be held on the surface to intercept cruising fish.

Long pole is a popular method at The Glebe. You need to be able to fish the pole at 13 – 16 metres whilst catapulting feed around your float. Many people make it look ridiculously easy, I can’t do it…I blame it on being left handed!.  The favourite feed is casters or pellet and the favourite hookbait is dead reds or banded pellet in the summer and expander pellet in the winter.

I’m sorry that I can’t give you any more advice, it’s a method that I’m completely useless at, always have been, always will be.

The 5 Metre Line
OK, at last we’re getting towards my favourite methods. Some call it the 5 metre line, some the 6 metre line and others the corn line. When I’m fishing it it’s a top 2 plus 2 more sections. At that distance you are fishing towards the bottom of the nearside slope. You’re not on the flat bit in the middle of the lake but nor are you on the steep slope that starts a foot or two from the nearside bank. On some pegs such as 5 – 8 plus some of the smaller pools I’ll fish even shorter, substituting a short #4 section rather than the normal #4. I’ll do this where the water is particularly deep and the bottom has levelled out at the normal distance. The 5 metre line is normally fished using corn although I have seen a few people be equally successful fishing pellet.

My rig when fishing this line is very simple. It consists of 0.20 G-Line straight through with a “Wilkie” float around 0.4 grams, a few #8 Stotz (two of them about 3″ from the hook, the remainder about 12″ above those) finished off with a size 14 Kamasan B911X barbless hook. I’ll use black or purple hydro elastic or equivalent sizes from other manufacturers in my top kits.

At this point it helps to know how the lakes have been fishing because on the all-in I’ll pot anything between a third of a pole cup of combined hemp and corn up to a full pot of each into my peg. totally depending on how well I think the fish are going to feed. That’s almost certainly the last time that I’ll pot bait on to my corn line although I will still use the cup to feed my margin swims. I’ll then feed the margins, put a bit of corn on to my hook and swing it out in a straight line so that the bait comes to rest on the gentle slope, slightly further out than my float. If all goes to plan the float will bury within 30 seconds and the first carp of the night will be on it’s way to the landing net. At the same time that I hook that fish I’ll throw some corn at the spot where the fish was hooked. Once the fish is safely in the keepnet I’ll rebait the hook, throw some more corn  out and repeat step one. I’ll NEVER feed with the hook in the water, it just leads to foul-hooked fish as they charge around eating the newly fed corn whilst your hookbait is sitting below them. If it goes quiet and I feel that I need to feed some more then I’ll throw some corn at the float then immediately lift the float out of the water and re-cast.

A couple of things that I can’t explain are how much to feed and when to lift and drop or drag your bait around, I guess these just come with experience. I’ve known 6 hour summer matches where I’ve fished corn all day but only used 1 tin whereas on other days I’ve used 12 tins (some of the local experts have been known to use 20 tins of corn in a day!). Similarly, sometimes you’ll find that every time you lift and drop the rig you’ll get a bite whereas on other occasions you just have to sit and wait patiently, again it’s probably experience. One last comment re corn fishing, it’s quite difficult on a flat calm day and become progressively easier as the wind increases. If you’re fishing on a day when it’s blowing a hooley and the tow is going in the opposite direction to the wind then you’ve only got to get the bait down to the bottom to virtually guarantee fish and in these conditions the bites are virtually unmissable, the carp seem to completely lose all caution…great days!.

Finally I can’t leave the subject of corn fishing without mentioning my big secret of Summer 2014. I had an amazing run of results, much better than you’d expect from a grumpy old pensioner. 200 lb bags were commonplace, I just couldn’t go wrong. Everybody wanted to know what I was doing to catch so many fish. It was really very simple, good draws and Credence Corn!. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere. Roy Marlow who owns The Glebe is also involved with the Japanese bait company Marukyu. Back in the Spring of 2014 Roy had a few samples of an artificial corn which was later to be marketed as Credence Corn. These samples were handed around a few of the Glebe regulars for field testing. Everybody tried it and most dismissed it as a waste of time but it was working miracles for me. I’ve always been the last of the Zorro strikers and when I fished corn with the natural stuff on the hook I would invariably lose the bait if I missed the bite. Credence Corn is made from a type of starch and it’s much stronger than real corn, I could strike, miss the bite and drop the float straight back down knowing that the bait was still on the hook, in fact there were occasions that I caught 4 or 5 fish on the same piece of artificial corn. Of course, everybody wanted to try this new wonder bait but of course it wasn’t any such thing. You still needed to know how to fish corn, it just helped heavy handed individuals such as me to fish to a higher standard. Amazingly, Gordon ‘Corn King’ Parker who is probably one of the best corn anglers on this planet has tried Credence Corn and has NEVER caught a fish on it.

The Margins
Most of the Glebe lakes have a type of non-invasive reeds growing in the margins, thus providing cover for those big carp that move in close towards the end of any match. It’s not difficult to catch 100 lbs in the final hour of a Glebe match, lots of these edge dwellers are nudging double figures.

Before the match, whilst you’re plumbing up you need to explore the margins on both sides. You’re looking for an area of flat bottom, hopefully around 2ft deep. Between pegs 21 and 22 there is a huge flat tabletop that stretches out at least 10ft from the bank but lots of other pegs have smaller, level areas ideal for margin fishing. What you don’t want to find are rocky areas or a really steep slope with no flat spots, in either case margin fishing will be a waste of time.

So once we’ve found our lat spot it should be fed occasionally with a pole cup. Eventually you might see a swirl over your baited area or you might drop a bait in there only for the float to bury. There are plenty of alternatives to feed into your margin swim, groundbait (either fairly dry or the consistency of soup), corn or pellets will all attract fish into the peg Hook baits are equally as varied, three or four dead reds on a 14 hook are a popular choice as is a hooker pellet, a grain of corn or an 8 or 10mm JPz jelly pellet. You don’t need to waste too much time trying your edge peg. The float will disappear within seconds or you’ll see some kind of indication on the float. If it sits there absolutely stationary then put another cup full of feed in and leave it for another half hour. It’s almost certain that they’ll turn up eventually.

Finally one or two match rules that haven’t been mentioned so far :
1) No meat baits of any kind to be used
2) Nets must be laid out on the grass when you get to your peg. They can be put in 15 minutes before the starting whistle3) Silvers and carp under 2 lb must be in one net. Carp over 2 lb must be in another net.
4) There is a net limit of 100 lbs. Anything over 100 lbs will be deducted from 100 lbs, therefor if your net has 120 lbs of fish in it the 20 lbs will be deducted and that net will be recorded as 80 lbs